Posting some Andrew McKenzie records, I knew there was a risk of seeing him ask to remove the posts as he often did on other blogs sharing The Hafler Trio material - though I made the choice, as I always try to do, to post only long time out-of-print releases (he has also expressed his views here). His message has arrived but this time this is not only a request to remove the links but also a kind of proposal. Feel free to answer him in comments. Here is the message :
I am the copyright owner in the recorded work referenced here: I have never given, nor have I ever been asked to give, permission to include this material in any way in this form.
I would ask, respectfully and politely, that you remove this as soon as possible.
I know that some people find this absurd, even though I have indicated many times my reasons for this publicly. I also have been insulted publicly simply for making my wishes known. I have also seen people try to justify their actions by stating that they are, by posting such material in a manner against my express wishes, 'helping' me, and 'doing me a favour'.
some people do listen, and remove the material - most times, however, it is clear that they do so out of fear of legal action, and not their own conscience.
so. I have a proposal for an alternative situation, one which will help everybody concerned. if enough people gather together who wish to post this material and *really* help me, I will reciprocate. I and the organisation to which I belong are looking for an agent. details of this can be found at http://www.simplysuperior.org. if we are sucessfully provided with one, we will not only pay the person leading us to that situation, but actually give you a release to post as far and wide as you please, with no restrictions. moreover, this will be ONLY available through your channels.
this is a sincere offer, and made in the spirit of genuine desire for co-operation. I will be pleased to answer any questions directed to me away from this channel.
./andrew m. mckenzie
p.p. The Hafler Trio
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Greetings NDLB: Quite an interesting proposal. Fact is years ago I purchased both Mother Tongue and Protection . Of course they have been long sold and undoubtedly appear in the collections of some unknown entities. Shall we ask these unknown entities if they are willing to pay Andrew NOW for the pleasure of "ownership"? How many times do we pay Andrew? Maybe he should ask numerous second hand retailers including Ebay types resellers for a cut of HIS "resold" copyrighted material? I think not. Andrew simply put these items up on bandcamp, that is if indeed you really are the owner and not Jon W.of Touch. Kind regards.
last time I looked, I was not, nor have ever been Jon Wozencroft, nor have I ever desired to be.
as you may note on reading the post a second time, I am not asking for money for old work, but suggesting there is a way to have intelligent use of resources.
my proposal is genuine, and is a real opportunity to make a good situation out of a less than desirable one. I am not threatening, I am asking. nicely.
you are of course free to disregard this attempt as the efforts of a pathetic old windbag to try to exert what little authority he has on a public that doesn't actually care.
or you may not.
./andrew mckenzie
weird...
I have a theory that people like LaMonte Young and possibly the Hafler Trio engage in the activity of deliberately keeping their recording so far out of the hands of listeners so as to create the aura of mystery driving folks to a "must have ay any cost" mentality. Meanwhile they sit on a pile of their recordings and maintain multiple ebay, GEMM, Musicstack, and Discogs sales accounts :-)
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